20 and Back

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20 and Back

The 20 and Back program (also referred to as age regression and blank-slating) is an alleged classified protocol under which personnel are purportedly recruited into secret space programs to serve a 20-year term of duty — reportedly working aboard off-world craft or installations — after which they are allegedly subjected to age regression (a process claimed to return their body to approximately the biological age at which they entered service) and memory erasure ("blank-slating" using "blank slate technology"), and then purportedly returned to their civilian life near the moment they left, retaining no conscious memory of their service period. The program is described by Corey Goode, Michael Relfe, Randy Cramer, Tony Rodrigues, Jean-Charles Moyen and David Rousseau, Rebecca Rose, and others, all of whom served under such contracts and subsequently recovered fragmented memories of the experience through hypnotic regression, meditation, and spontaneous recall triggered by sensory cues.

Standard induction procedure

The path into a 20-and-back program reportedly begins, in most documented cases, with a MILAB identification process in early childhood. Corey Goode was identified and recruited at age six; Jean-Charles Moyen and David Rousseau both began at age eight in 1981. The childhood phase allegedly involves psychological assessment, psionic testing, and early trauma-based conditioning; recruits may reportedly be enrolled in parallel "programs within programs" without their conscious awareness. The Brohio Podcast's 2020 summary of the program, drawing on Tony Rodrigues, described this as: "essentially abducted...launched into a career where you serve as a slave."

At or near military induction age, the recruit is formally enrolled through a non-disclosure agreement. Andrew Basiago's Mars program NDA was signed under group conformity and peer pressure; Basiago subsequently repudiated its validity on the grounds that "the signing of that oath was not consensual" and that commitments made by the program — zero-interest home loans, cradle-to-grave government service, full military benefits — were never honoured. Formal assignment followed a period of classified training: Rodrigues describes training for cargo escort duty; Basiago's training included survival skills and ethical rules for the Mars surface environment (notably, instructions on when it was permissible to fire on Martian humanoids or predators).[citation needed]

Memory suppression process

The blank-slating process targets specific categories of memory in sequence rather than wiping all memory at once. Tony Rodrigues describes being processed through a series of booths at the Moon base — resembling "an arcade game that you sit inside" — each programmed to remove a distinct type of memory: "one thing just strictly made you forget names and then you'd go to the next, they take you out of that, put you in the next one and it strictly made you forget faces. And they slowly chipped away by hypnosis, whatever technology, they chipped away at your memories." Rodrigues describes being "rebellious the entire time" throughout the suppression process, repeatedly asserting he would remember — and in his case, retaining substantially more memory than the process was designed to erase. A time-viewing device — which Rodrigues referred to using the popular term "Chronovisor" — was used to check probable futures to verify the regression had succeeded, because his probability of remembering remained high enough to concern operators.

Age regression procedure

Age regression is described by multiple witnesses as an alleged physical biological reversal — not merely cosmetic — purportedly returning the body to its approximate biological age at the time of recruitment. Randy Cramer describes the process as a consciousness transfer: "They transfer your consciousness from the body you're in to a younger version, a clone of yourself... Put me into a younger version of my body, 17 years old, reinserted me 15 minutes after I left." Tony Rodrigues underwent regression at the Moon base, where his "consciousness" was placed back into his ten-year-old body. The alleged time-compression element — purportedly returning the individual to within minutes of their departure point in civilian time — would mean the recruit's family experiences no detectable absence, and the recruit reintegrates as though no time has passed while carrying (suppressed) memories of twenty years of service.

Consciousness transfer model

Tony Rodrigues has proposed a detailed mechanistic theory for how the program operates that differs from a straightforward biological regression: in his account, the operative procedure involves cloning the recruit's body, then extracting the "spark of life" — the animating consciousness — from the original body and installing it in the clone, which then lives out the service term while the original body remains as "a vegetable on the table." At the end of service the clone is destroyed, the consciousness is returned to the original body, and the original childhood memories are restored because they were stored in the original biological substrate all along. Rodrigues traces the induction to a direct encounter with a Reptilian entity who told him at age ten: "we want to borrow your consciousness" — framing the program as temporary, with the promise that he would "go right back. It'll be like you never left." Upon waking in the clone body after the consciousness transfer, Rodrigues reports that all childhood memories — family, home, his mother and father — were completely absent; he spent years in service with no knowledge of where he came from, though a subconscious residue caused him to repeatedly draw the same image: a farmhouse with a long driveway — his actual childhood home.

Rodrigues also describes a nested variant of the arrangement, in which a second consciousness transfer within his term added a further off-world labour assignment stacked inside the twenty-year period — an additional ten years spent in a non-human body constructing a star in another galaxy under the star-building project he calls Project Star Maker, which he likens to a set of Russian dolls, one twenty-and-back concealing another program inside it.

Debriefing and re-insertion

After the alleged age regression and memory suppression, the returning recruit is reportedly re-inserted into civilian life with a cover story and, often, fabricated memories filling the gap. Basiago's Mars program used the American reverse-engineered version of a Soviet memory-suppression device (the "LIA machine") administered by Major Ed Dames immediately after each Mars excursion. A chronovisor (time-viewing device) was used in Rodrigues's case to check probable future timelines and verify that the suppression was likely to hold, because his probability of remembering remained statistically high enough to concern program operators. Per Rodrigues, re-insertion into civilian life is accompanied by implanted false memories — standard practice to explain away any physical or psychological anomalies the returning subject might exhibit. Program participants who subsequently recover memories — through hypnotic regression, meditation, or spontaneous recall — describe this as a slow, fragmentary process, often triggered by sensory cues from their suppressed service period.

Known participants

Program participants who have publicly disclosed include Tony Rodrigues and Michael Gerloff, who discussed their SSP service in a 2020 podcast appearance.

Mark Domizio describes a variant of the standard end-of-contract procedure in which his clone was not destroyed as protocol required. According to Domizio, after his two-year contract at Diego Garcia ended in 1981, his soul returned to his Earth body in Camden, New Jersey, while the clone — instead of being terminated — was sent to Dulce Base and subjected to electric shock therapy to suppress its conscience and reshape its personality into a trained enforcer alter called "Hans." Domizio explains the standard termination procedure as: "You go back, they regress your age to where the same age as when they took you. They mind wipe you from your experiences. And then you wake up and you don't know the difference. At that point, they normally destroy your clone."

Chris O'Connor, who describes a total of three consecutive 20-and-back terms — 60 years of service — with the United Nations Secret Space Program, reports re-enlisting for a second term at approximately age 45 and successfully negotiating for a 25-year-old clone body as a condition of re-enlistment. At the end of his full 60-year service, his consciousness was placed into a clone of his two-year-old body with "the vast majority" of his memories removed before being returned to 1970, effectively resuming his civilian life as an infant with no recollection of six decades of off-world service.

Jean-Charles Moyen and David Rousseau represent the first French 20-and-back witnesses to emerge publicly. Both claim to have begun their programs in 1981 at age eight and completed them around 2001, serving together aboard the Solar Warden ship Solaris. Rousseau described the end of his service as emotionally devastating — "it was very painful to leave the people he was with" — and noted that even the memory-suppression process could not erase the relationship between himself and Moyen: "having done missions and having spent 20 years together, it is obvious that this forges an indestructible connection, and even all their memory-erasing devices have not been able to erase this relationship." The Moyen–Rousseau pairing is notable as an independently corroborated 20-and-back case, with each man able to describe specific details of the other's service without coordination.

Terminology

Michael Salla traced the origin of the public "20 and back" terminology to Randy Cramer (then using the pseudonym Captain K), who first discussed it in interviews with Salla in April 2014, predating later claimants who had contested ownership of the term. In 2024, Jason Sands, a 22-year U.S. Air Force veteran whose service record (DD-214) was publicly posted, came forward asserting participation in a 20-and-back program; his claim was reportedly met with skepticism from figures including Richard Doty and Eric Davis who made statements Sands characterized as disparaging of his security clearances, with Salla observing that earlier intellectual-property controversies around the "20 and back" term had made it "toxic" for new claimants.

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